Rhema and Logos: No Difference!!!

The Word of Faith preachers keep telling us that there is a special difference between the words Logos and Rhema.

According to Word of Faith theology:

Rhema means “spoken word”, and Logos means “written word” or Jesus Himself

Rhema means “particular word” and Logos means general word

Rhema is subjective and Logos is objective

Rhema is specific word and Logos is generic word or universal word

Rhema is contemporary and Logos is eternal.

Rhema is the “now” word and Logos is the Bible itself

Rhema is a revelatory word and Logos is the written word

Rhema is the quickened word and Logos is the written word

Rhema word contains power and Logos word is only black letters in white paper

These claims are absolutely contrary to the scriptures.  In the Septuagint (Greek Old Testament) and in the Greek New Testament Rhema and Logos are used interchangeably.  They are used synonymously and there is no difference between Logos and Rhema at all.

Kenneth Hagin Sr. founded “Rhema Bible Training Center” a.k.a “Rhema Bible Twisting Center” based upon this false assumption!

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23 Responses to “Rhema and Logos: No Difference!!!”

  1. john edwards Says:

    Rhema Bible twisting Center….LOL I totally agree with you

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  3. GaryM Says:

    I appreciate your vigor in defending your viewpoint but can you at least use some scholarly resources to back up your claim concerning the distinction between Logos and Rhema?

    Your argumentation would be a lot more effective if you used credible sources instead of declarative statements.

    Just a thought…

    • WoF Unveiled Says:

      I agree with you Gary. I am working on it. Doing research in the Septuagint and in Greek NT is a lot of work. Soon God willing the source verses will be mentioned in this post.

      Thanks for visiting and commenting.

      • YesNaSpanishTown Says:

        WOW! I just found this blog via a link, via a link….

        I, too, am awaiting your findings. This is a very important distinction.

        Thanks!

  4. Chris Fincher Says:

    I read a great book called the Johnanine Logos by G.H. Clark.. it has a great deal of info regarding your article..

    I wrote a small article called the Mind Of God that kindof of deal with this.. If you take the time to read it let me know what you think!

    Chris

  5. Ed Chapman Says:

    Hello,

    I know this post was from a while back, but I must clarify the difference between logos and rhema.

    If I say that it is your word against my word, this is logos.

    If you speak your own words, that is logos. But if I speak your words, that is rhema.

    If I speak my own words, which originated in my own mind, that is logos.

    But if I speak your words (Rhema), which you already spoke (Logos), I am repeating what you said.

    We must give an account to God. The word Account is Logos, and not rhema.

    I hope this clears things up between the two.

  6. John Says:

    Actually, logos & rhema being differentiated has nothing to do with the Word of Faith Movement. It’s based on a body of Scriptures most notably Mark 11:23 where Jesus tell his future apostle that ‘Whatsoever they desire believe they receive it when they pray.’ Paul said many times that Kingdom provisions are obtained by ‘believing & confessing.’

    Sound doctrine isn’t based on a theological understanding of how Greek words are used but rather the Scriptures that surround them.

    You cannot say you’re ‘born again’ & disagree with appropiation by faith with corresponding confession. That’s how were saved! Believing & confessing Jesus as Saviour. Every Spiritual provision is obtained this way according to the body of Scriptures. NOT quibbling over one Greek word!

  7. Garrett Says:

    Romans 10:13 says”For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
    I believe the Bible(God’s inspired word). God said what he meant and meant what He said.. Who is man to question God. nothing. you either believe it and go to heaven when you die, or don’t believe it and go to hell when you die. all of God’s word is good and if you have a problem with what He said. ask the source. GOD. don’t sit and argue . everyone has their own opinion about every subject. this is mine.

    • WoF Unveiled Says:

      Who can call upon the name of the Lord in the 1st place? Those who are already in His Kingdom and have access to Him. Roman 10:13 is not for unbelievers. Salvation is contrasted with justification in the book of Romans. Therefore both are not same. Justification = Believe in heart and get eternal life. Salvation = save from the power of sin (and not from hell)

  8. Ed Chapman Says:

    WoF, Salvation DOES mean from Hell. If we are saved from the power of SIN, then we are indeed saved from Hell. We are sinners until we die and get out of this body. So, salvation did not free us from sinning…just the power of sin. We STRUGGLE with sin. We are not saved on Sunday, lost on Monday, re-saved on Wednesday, etc.

    • WoF Unveiled Says:

      In Luke and Acts “salvation” means salvation from eternal hell. However in the book of Romans salvation is referred to power over sin. Eternal life and justification refer to salvation from hell in the book of Romans.

      • chapmaned24 Says:

        Dear WoF Unveiled,

        Where is the comment that I posted on January 2 following your post of January 2, at 4:40 am? It was a precise comment.

      • WoF Unveiled Says:

        I was busy, I approved but I will get back to you with answers from Romans.

      • chapmaned24 Says:

        OK, thanks.

      • chapmaned24 Says:

        Seven months…still waiting…tick tock, tick toc, tick toc.

        Ed

      • chapmaned24 Says:

        Correction…almost 11 months. I was thinking of going to 7-11, so I said seven….oops.

        Ed

      • chapmaned24 Says:

        I totally disagree with you WoF. We must give a LOGOS to God. The word account is LOGOS. That means that the original thought originates in OUR OWN MIND. And the definition of LOGOS is SPOKEN WORD, including THOUGHT. I stand by what I said, that rhema is when you speak someone elses word, and logos is when you speak your own word. When we give an account (LOGOS), that is NOT given by the Holy Spirit.

        Next, I followed that link that you gave me…http://romanstennine.wordpress.com. I must say that the topic of the link was ridiculous. What I mean by that is…Who in the heck is having a problem with confessing Christ? When one is in a conversation with people, your confession is a confirmation of your belief. It is quite stupid to post an article about it. What does one do in regards to making disciples? We confess Jesus. Bottom line, that was the dumbest article I think that I have ever read. They are making an argument where there isn’t one. Come on dude, is that all you got?

        Respectfully,

        Ed

  9. daniel dale tilton Says:

    amen … i took spend alot of time studying scriptures with a strongs concordance and … with you have written here “there is no difference between logos and rhema” …..is true!!
    thanks for your post

    • chapmaned24 Says:

      Daniel I strongly disagree that there is no difference. rhema is speaking someone elses’ words, whereas logos is speaking your own words. Big difference.

      • WoF Unveiled Says:

        Ed, there is no difference at all. Even in the 9 gifts of the Spirit in 1 Corinthinans 12. for WORD of Knowledge/WORD of Wisdom it is is LOGOS. Both are given by the Holy Spirit super naturally.

        Regarding Romans please check this out:

        http://romanstennine.wordpress.com

      • chapmaned24 Says:

        I totally disagree with you WoF. We must give a LOGOS to God. The word account is LOGOS. That means that the original thought originates in OUR OWN MIND. And the definition of LOGOS is SPOKEN WORD, including THOUGHT. I stand by what I said, that rhema is when you speak someone elses word, and logos is when you speak your own word. When we give an account (LOGOS), that is NOT given by the Holy Spirit.

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